914-V8 Radiator Size and Angle Issues/Questions, Calling all 914 v8 Guys Options

[wallys914]

Im trying to Figure out if an extra radiator i have will work for my V8 conversion. It is at an 35-45 degree angle to fit under the hood, is that to much?

It's a 30x18 dual core, I thought it would fit but guess not. What size are the renegade ones? They look raked out when the are installed as well.

Thanks.

[BRAVE_HELIOS]

Renegades setup was the best money I have spent on my v8 to date. I highly recommend it & them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . I really looked for quite a while but by the time you get all the pieces. You are going to spend close to that if not more. It is everything you need in one package. You can do it cheaper if you are resourceful. I tried or at least looked before spending the money. After my issues at last years WCR (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) . Believe me I was wishing I had just ponied up the dough then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I keep seeing that the Renegade setup is the beat way to go but NO ONE ever divulges as to the details of the setup such as how many rows/cores; is it a double or triple pass radiator etc...

Did y'all have to sign your souls to these folks?

Anyone have these details?

Thanks!

[Andyrew]

Renegades setup was the best money I have spent on my v8 to date. I highly recommend it & them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . I really looked for quite a while but by the time you get all the pieces. You are going to spend close to that if not more. It is everything you need in one package. You can do it cheaper if you are resourceful. I tried or at least looked before spending the money. After my issues at last years WCR (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) . Believe me I was wishing I had just ponied up the dough then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I keep seeing that the Renegade setup is the beat way to go but NO ONE ever divulges as to the details of the setup such as how many rows/cores; is it a double or triple pass radiator etc...

Did y'all have to sign your souls to these folks?

Anyone have these details?

Thanks!

AFAIK Its a dual core double pass custom radiator they have made combined with the appropriate bleeding system and good shrouding.


I've been toying with the idea of making a small displacement radiator system for the 914 since Rennegades is overkill and pricey for anything v6 and smaller.

[burton73]

From Big Cat Bob, not me, Bob B but this is the same set up I have and I believe this is the Renegade set up. My set up came in a car I bought and the PO said it was a Renegade set up. When I removed it from the 74 car it was printed Ron Davis Racing

“Not a good picture but this is a Double pass 16X28 Ron Davis with 2 16" Spal fans. I also have a SPAL pwm fan controller, It has programmable presets for the fans. You start with one fan at 1/2 speed and fan speed increases with tempeture. When the fan reaches full speed and the tempeture increases 10 degree more the second fan comes on at full speed also.
Bob”

Are you still screwing with your radiator? This has been going on for a long time.

Bob B

[BRAVE_HELIOS]

Renegades setup was the best money I have spent on my v8 to date. I highly recommend it & them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . I really looked for quite a while but by the time you get all the pieces. You are going to spend close to that if not more. It is everything you need in one package. You can do it cheaper if you are resourceful. I tried or at least looked before spending the money. After my issues at last years WCR (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) . Believe me I was wishing I had just ponied up the dough then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I keep seeing that the Renegade setup is the beat way to go but NO ONE ever divulges as to the details of the setup such as how many rows/cores; is it a double or triple pass radiator etc...

Did y'all have to sign your souls to these folks?

Anyone have these details?

Thanks!

AFAIK Its a dual core double pass custom radiator they have made combined with the appropriate bleeding system and good shrouding.


I've been toying with the idea of making a small displacement radiator system for the 914 since Rennegades is overkill and pricey for anything v6 and smaller.

Good to know!

Now, do you know whether a 2 row double pass radiator cools more efficiently than a 4 row cross flow unit?

I have a two row cross flow Griffin unit in my car and on an 85 degree day, it will creep past 200 degrees. This is on a mildly tuned 350 with no T-stat installed (around 300HP).

[BRAVE_HELIOS]

Renegades setup was the best money I have spent on my v8 to date. I highly recommend it & them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . I really looked for quite a while but by the time you get all the pieces. You are going to spend close to that if not more. It is everything you need in one package. You can do it cheaper if you are resourceful. I tried or at least looked before spending the money. After my issues at last years WCR (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) . Believe me I was wishing I had just ponied up the dough then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I keep seeing that the Renegade setup is the beat way to go but NO ONE ever divulges as to the details of the setup such as how many rows/cores; is it a double or triple pass radiator etc...

Did y'all have to sign your souls to these folks?

Anyone have these details?

Thanks!

AFAIK Its a dual core double pass custom radiator they have made combined with the appropriate bleeding system and good shrouding.


I've been toying with the idea of making a small displacement radiator system for the 914 since Rennegades is overkill and pricey for anything v6 and smaller.

Good to know!

Now, do you know whether a 2 row double pass radiator cools more efficiently than a 4 row cross flow unit?

I have a two row cross flow Griffin unit in my car and on an 85 degree day, it will creep past 200 degrees. This is on a mildly tuned 350 with no T-stat installed (around 300HP).

Indeed; it has been going on for a long time. My last attempt was to add an oil cooler which helped but during a hot day (a few days ago), that dang temp came up past 200 again so now I have resigned myself to go either 4 row cross flow or 2 row double or triple pass rad. That's what I am trying to figure out!!

[76-914]

Renegades setup was the best money I have spent on my v8 to date. I highly recommend it & them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . I really looked for quite a while but by the time you get all the pieces. You are going to spend close to that if not more. It is everything you need in one package. You can do it cheaper if you are resourceful. I tried or at least looked before spending the money. After my issues at last years WCR (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) . Believe me I was wishing I had just ponied up the dough then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I keep seeing that the Renegade setup is the beat way to go but NO ONE ever divulges as to the details of the setup such as how many rows/cores; is it a double or triple pass radiator etc...

Did y'all have to sign your souls to these folks?

Anyone have these details?

Thanks!

AFAIK Its a dual core double pass custom radiator they have made combined with the appropriate bleeding system and good shrouding.


I've been toying with the idea of making a small displacement radiator system for the 914 since Rennegades is overkill and pricey for anything v6 and smaller.

Good to know!

Now, do you know whether a 2 row double pass radiator cools more efficiently than a 4 row cross flow unit?

I have a two row cross flow Griffin unit in my car and on an 85 degree day, it will creep past 200 degrees. This is on a mildly tuned 350 with no T-stat installed (around 300HP).

Indeed; it has been going on for a long time. My last attempt was to add an oil cooler which helped but during a hot day (a few days ago), that dang temp came up past 200 again so now I have resigned myself to go either 4 row cross flow or 2 row double or triple pass rad. That's what I am trying to figure out!!

I just read that thread. I'd like to see a pic of the expansion tank from the side and bottom plus a few more from different angles. I's difficult to see where some of those hoses travel in your pic. Post it back on your thread so we don't hijack this one; too much anyway! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

[BRAVE_HELIOS]

Renegades setup was the best money I have spent on my v8 to date. I highly recommend it & them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . I really looked for quite a while but by the time you get all the pieces. You are going to spend close to that if not more. It is everything you need in one package. You can do it cheaper if you are resourceful. I tried or at least looked before spending the money. After my issues at last years WCR (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) . Believe me I was wishing I had just ponied up the dough then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I keep seeing that the Renegade setup is the beat way to go but NO ONE ever divulges as to the details of the setup such as how many rows/cores; is it a double or triple pass radiator etc...

Did y'all have to sign your souls to these folks?

Anyone have these details?

Thanks!

AFAIK Its a dual core double pass custom radiator they have made combined with the appropriate bleeding system and good shrouding.


I've been toying with the idea of making a small displacement radiator system for the 914 since Rennegades is overkill and pricey for anything v6 and smaller.

Good to know!

Now, do you know whether a 2 row double pass radiator cools more efficiently than a 4 row cross flow unit?

I have a two row cross flow Griffin unit in my car and on an 85 degree day, it will creep past 200 degrees. This is on a mildly tuned 350 with no T-stat installed (around 300HP).

Indeed; it has been going on for a long time. My last attempt was to add an oil cooler which helped but during a hot day (a few days ago), that dang temp came up past 200 again so now I have resigned myself to go either 4 row cross flow or 2 row double or triple pass rad. That's what I am trying to figure out!!

I just read that thread. I'd like to see a pic of the expansion tank from the side and bottom plus a few more from different angles. I's difficult to see where some of those hoses travel in your pic. Post it back on your thread so we don't hijack this one; too much anyway! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

Can do. Are you looking to see how I have things routed to replicate for yourself or to verify I have things plumbed correctly? I am pretty sure I followed all of the routing recommendations correctly!

[Mueller]

Renegade's setup is $1K. I have around $600 in my setup with 525HP that I beat the hell out of on the track and don't over heat. If he already has the radiator and it appears to be more than sufficient, he is most of the way there IMHO.

Your cooling will be a little different I believe due to your tube frame, you have a lot more exhaust for the hot air to escape.

[76-914]

Renegades setup was the best money I have spent on my v8 to date. I highly recommend it & them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . I really looked for quite a while but by the time you get all the pieces. You are going to spend close to that if not more. It is everything you need in one package. You can do it cheaper if you are resourceful. I tried or at least looked before spending the money. After my issues at last years WCR (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) . Believe me I was wishing I had just ponied up the dough then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I keep seeing that the Renegade setup is the beat way to go but NO ONE ever divulges as to the details of the setup such as how many rows/cores; is it a double or triple pass radiator etc...

Did y'all have to sign your souls to these folks?

Anyone have these details?

Thanks!

AFAIK Its a dual core double pass custom radiator they have made combined with the appropriate bleeding system and good shrouding.


I've been toying with the idea of making a small displacement radiator system for the 914 since Rennegades is overkill and pricey for anything v6 and smaller.

Good to know!

Now, do you know whether a 2 row double pass radiator cools more efficiently than a 4 row cross flow unit?

I have a two row cross flow Griffin unit in my car and on an 85 degree day, it will creep past 200 degrees. This is on a mildly tuned 350 with no T-stat installed (around 300HP).

Indeed; it has been going on for a long time. My last attempt was to add an oil cooler which helped but during a hot day (a few days ago), that dang temp came up past 200 again so now I have resigned myself to go either 4 row cross flow or 2 row double or triple pass rad. That's what I am trying to figure out!!

I just read that thread. I'd like to see a pic of the expansion tank from the side and bottom plus a few more from different angles. I's difficult to see where some of those hoses travel in your pic. Post it back on your thread so we don't hijack this one; too much anyway! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

Can do. Are you looking to see how I have things routed to replicate for yourself or to verify I have things plumbed correctly? I am pretty sure I followed all of the routing recommendations correctly!

To verify!

[BRAVE_HELIOS]

Renegades setup was the best money I have spent on my v8 to date. I highly recommend it & them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . I really looked for quite a while but by the time you get all the pieces. You are going to spend close to that if not more. It is everything you need in one package. You can do it cheaper if you are resourceful. I tried or at least looked before spending the money. After my issues at last years WCR (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) . Believe me I was wishing I had just ponied up the dough then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I keep seeing that the Renegade setup is the beat way to go but NO ONE ever divulges as to the details of the setup such as how many rows/cores; is it a double or triple pass radiator etc...

Did y'all have to sign your souls to these folks?

Anyone have these details?

Thanks!

AFAIK Its a dual core double pass custom radiator they have made combined with the appropriate bleeding system and good shrouding.


I've been toying with the idea of making a small displacement radiator system for the 914 since Rennegades is overkill and pricey for anything v6 and smaller.

Good to know!

Now, do you know whether a 2 row double pass radiator cools more efficiently than a 4 row cross flow unit?

I have a two row cross flow Griffin unit in my car and on an 85 degree day, it will creep past 200 degrees. This is on a mildly tuned 350 with no T-stat installed (around 300HP).

Indeed; it has been going on for a long time. My last attempt was to add an oil cooler which helped but during a hot day (a few days ago), that dang temp came up past 200 again so now I have resigned myself to go either 4 row cross flow or 2 row double or triple pass rad. That's what I am trying to figure out!!

I just read that thread. I'd like to see a pic of the expansion tank from the side and bottom plus a few more from different angles. I's difficult to see where some of those hoses travel in your pic. Post it back on your thread so we don't hijack this one; too much anyway! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

Can do. Are you looking to see how I have things routed to replicate for yourself or to verify I have things plumbed correctly? I am pretty sure I followed all of the routing recommendations correctly!

To verify!

I see!

Go here for a schematic and pics of what I did.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...90647&st=60